Comments on: God, can’t you help me out?! http://shoreline.marshillchurch.org/2009/05/30/god-cant-you-help-me-out/ The latest information on Mars Hill Church | Shoreline Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:22:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Steve Goodman http://shoreline.marshillchurch.org/2009/05/30/god-cant-you-help-me-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 Steve Goodman Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:00:06 +0000 http://shoreline.marshillchurch.org/?p=2412#comment-1074 In one sense, after his conversion, Paul said, "I die DAILY." But the New Testament also declares that "you HAVE died and are now RISEN with Christ". Many believers are TRYING to die again and again rather than trusting that the DEATH with CHRIST is COMPLETE--"It is FINISHED." Penance (a work of man) is counterfeit repentance. We must "reckon ourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus." But IN that RECKONING, we don't make it ANY MORE TRUE than GOD has ALREADY MADE IT. Charles Trumbull in his book "Victory in Christ": "We say that we wholly believe in God and God ALONE for SALVATION, but then when it comes to SANCTIFICATION we somehow believe and think and act as if it's up to US to 'PADDLE our OWN CANOE'! In one sense, after his conversion, Paul said, “I die DAILY.” But the New Testament also declares that “you HAVE died and are now RISEN with Christ”. Many believers are TRYING to die again and again rather than trusting that the DEATH with CHRIST is COMPLETE–”It is FINISHED.” Penance (a work of man) is counterfeit repentance. We must “reckon ourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.” But IN that RECKONING, we don’t make it ANY MORE TRUE than GOD has ALREADY MADE IT. Charles Trumbull in his book “Victory in Christ”: “We say that we wholly believe in God and God ALONE for SALVATION, but then when it comes to SANCTIFICATION we somehow believe and think and act as if it’s up to US to ‘PADDLE our OWN CANOE’!

]]> By: Justin Schaeffer http://shoreline.marshillchurch.org/2009/05/30/god-cant-you-help-me-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1030 Justin Schaeffer Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:09:23 +0000 http://shoreline.marshillchurch.org/?p=2412#comment-1030 Wow Pastor Kerry - that is an intense thing to consider. It's not like you were praying to God for a new car or a boat, but were praying that He would help you to stop sinning and to avoid falling into temptation. In light of Pastor Mark's sermon on Justification yesterday this even makes more sense, but is ridiculously hard for my religious heart to bear. To say with Paul "I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of Knowing Christ Jesus my lord." and mean "I count my good works or my own piety as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord" takes a true humility. To die to the vanity that wants so desperately to COUNT what I DO as gain to add to my righteousness is a death I need to die to over and over again, deeper and deeper into my heart. We know we can say this though because Paul asked for God to take away his "thorn" and God said no so that he'd have to rely on Jesus. Thank you for this blog post...I've got some praying and some gospel preaching to do to myself. Wow Pastor Kerry – that is an intense thing to consider. It’s not like you were praying to God for a new car or a boat, but were praying that He would help you to stop sinning and to avoid falling into temptation.

In light of Pastor Mark’s sermon on Justification yesterday this even makes more sense, but is ridiculously hard for my religious heart to bear. To say with Paul “I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of Knowing Christ Jesus my lord.” and mean “I count my good works or my own piety as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord” takes a true humility. To die to the vanity that wants so desperately to COUNT what I DO as gain to add to my righteousness is a death I need to die to over and over again, deeper and deeper into my heart. We know we can say this though because Paul asked for God to take away his “thorn” and God said no so that he’d have to rely on Jesus.

Thank you for this blog post…I’ve got some praying and some gospel preaching to do to myself.

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